If it wasn't for google I'd still be in the dark.
(marching off singing 'I once was lost, but now, I'm found, was blind but now, I see ... hmm hmm hmm hmmm)
ok i got an email about the google thing.. .
the post about google in the june km is unverified but it in essence was .
dont use search engines to find our sites because they will take you to apostate sites.. i didnt copy the post in to this message because when i copied it into my thread about pms, the whole thread became inaccessable.. ipsec
If it wasn't for google I'd still be in the dark.
(marching off singing 'I once was lost, but now, I'm found, was blind but now, I see ... hmm hmm hmm hmmm)
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i'd like to get comments from people about whether and how much they were shocked, surprised, or otherwise bothered by the watchtower society's becoming an associated non-governmental organization (ngo).. note that i'd like to see these comments because they might lead to some interesting publicity, so please comment accordingly.. alanf
Then the emotion changed to laughter and gladness that they had revealed them selves as hypocrites and liars for all the world to see.
That's the BEST! Now 'honesthearted' people can see the WTBS for what it truly is ... a cult, plain and simple.
hi, been here before for a long time under "1914" and surfing "anon".
i'm ron, glad to identify myself and not returning to the "borg".
Hello ron&theresa ... great to have you here. You are truly among 'friends'
i dropped out years ago because i couldn't stand getting together with sisters i didn't like to do a talk.
i hated it with a passion!!
i do realize that you did learn but what i resented was that the sisters were inflicted on each other in a way that i don't think the brothers were.
difficult for a 7 year old...anyway he has done brilliantly..even managed to put some modulation in..not overdone..and has 2 words of the passage left....TWO WORDS..when the idiot school overseer bells him...disbelieving silence from everyone except me who says loudly..."you have got to be kidding"
You GO tij ... shame on the heartless bastard!
i dropped out years ago because i couldn't stand getting together with sisters i didn't like to do a talk.
i hated it with a passion!!
i do realize that you did learn but what i resented was that the sisters were inflicted on each other in a way that i don't think the brothers were.
That is one of the things I am grateful for today. I am a little bit shy by nature and the theocratic school helped me get over that to a certain extent. I always did well on my college presentations too; receiving 'sincere' praise from my classmates. But like what_truth at some point I stopped getting talk assignments - for a period of 2 years ... WTF. Maybe I was showing up some of the elders wives . Anywho - I did enjoy the research and preparation, didn't mind the sisters too much cause I got along with everybody like a good little dubbie is supposed to .
i want to make a note on this board that the x-jw's are definately, in my book, beautiful people!.
perhaps it is because of the good things we have derived.
maybe it's the hardships.. either way, we are all beautiful here.. -lots of love from professor.
I certainly agree. Ex-jdubs are truly Beautiful People and I'm grateful to be among you.
I don't know what I'd do without you. You help me maintain my sanity.
To ALL the beautiful people posting on this forum ... I wish you all the best that life has to offer.
Your sister Sweet Tee
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how do you feel about elders df'g a child of 13 or 14 for being a willing victim of child abuse?
I am with Vitty. A child cannot consent to sex with an adult ... period. The grown-up is the one that should be penalized - by a judge in a court of law not a judicail committee in a kangaroo court.
As for doubtfully feeling sorry for the blemishes on the 'religion'; I could personally care less about how a religious organization looks in the eyes of the public. I have much more compassion for how minor children are victimized and mistreated in the name of 'religion'.
hi ppls!
i found on the watchtower sight under the topic "how can you find the true religion?".
that it mentions, "the most outstanding mark of true christians is that they have real love among themselves.".
I believe this statement to be true. Enough said.
The statement may be true of True Christians but it is not true of Jehovah's Witnesses. What loving Christian Church would allow protect pedophiles and permit them to roam freely amist children? hmmmmmm?? Sanction and encourage child abuse? Encourage, no, demand that parent's not speak to children and grandchildren who disbeleive ... none that I want to be affiliated with, that's for sure.
The so-called love among JW's is totally conditional and bears no resemblance to the type of love shown by Jesus Christ. Just my 2 cents.
cypher: i know what you're thinking, 'cause i'm thinking the exact same thing.
actually, i've been thinking it since i got here: why didn't i take the blue pill?
- the matrix.
All I can say is that I wasn't really happy as a JW. I thought I was but in hindsight I was just fooling myself.
I think a lot of the dubs are doing the same thing. Especially the real 'thinkers' and 'intellectuals' still in the bOrg. But hey, that pair-o-dice is right around the corner - true happiness and bliss shall soon abound (just forget about that generation thing and keep on precahing - the end is NiGH, the end is NIGH, the end is )
vitta's thread above got me wondering.
how many here still believed the "witnesses" to have the truth until they came to sites like this?
how many actually came here to defend the jw's and ended up leaving?
The Internet didn't help me decide to leave, but while I was looking for the WTBS web site to order the 'young people ask' book for my kids, I came across Randy Waters web site. Then ordered COC - devoured it - confirmed some things, revealed others and left me completely appalled at this organization that calls itself 'God's representatives on Earth. I will never look at the WTBS the same as I did before, and I hope to God more Witnesses find out the truth about the 'lie', whether it be from Ray's book, the media or the web.
Great thread.